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Guys that gain 25+ lbs per cycle
Here�s some info for guys who want to gain 20-25lbs on a cycle.
Everyone wants to know how to gain high poundages on a cycle. We�ve all got a
�friend� in a gym somewhere that gained 25lbs on his last cycle and we want
to do the same. We ask ourselves�What is his secret? Is the juice he�s
taking that good? Is it a good diet in conjunction with the test.. is that what
is responsible? Well, here�s the answer.. NO, his particular anabolic
compound of choice be it Sustanon, Winstrol, Dbol, Tren, etc� isn�t so
great that whoever takes one of those compounds will grow.. nor is his diet so
�on� that he will gain more than us.
Here�s the truth.. and some of you won�t like it.. Some of you may even get
pissed off.. The reason these guys grow so much on their cycles is because they
shouldn�t even be using steroids to begin with� And that�s the truth�
That may sound a bit confusing.. yes? Well allow me to elaborate�
You take a 20 yr old male. He has been lifting on and off for six months or
so� He�s about 6 foot tall maybe a little shorter.. 5�10� or so.. He
weighs about 165lbs.. He�s got a little bit of definition.. nothing big..
when his shirt is off people can tell he�s been working out.. He decides one
day that he wants to take steroids, He sees the really big guys in the gym and
he wants to be like them right now.. he doesn�t want to wait any longer.. in
his mind six months has been long enough.. So he gets on the internet.. he
finds a message board similar to this one.. he reads a little .. finds a hook
up.. and decides to run 250mg of test and 300mg of deca for two months and ends
up weighing around 185 or 190.. All of his friends are amazed.. he�s amazed
He�s put on some size.. he looks like a weight lifter.. he doesn�t look
like someone who could compete.. but he looks like he�s finally arrived on
the Body building scene� His closest friends are so impressed that they want
to run the exact same cycle .. He tells them exactly what he did.. how he ate
etc� Now, a few months go by.. all of a sudden the kid is back to around 165
maybe 170.. He thinks.. �Oh man.. I�ve got to get back on cycle.. I need
those drugs to be big.. if I don�t.. I just can�t grow� Steroids require
that I stay on all the time to maintain the kind of size that I want�� I
guess that�s what he has to do; huh; stay on all the time?
Now, here�s the reason he gained 25lbs on his cycle.. He was so far from his
genetic potential that once the anabolic compounds were introduced into his
system he grew like a weed.. His body didn�t need to struggle to put on that
mass, because it was quite capable of adding that much mass naturally.. The
steroids just sped it up..
it is for lack of a better or more accurate word.. a short cut to get to where
he could have gotten natural anyway. His inevitable weight loss after coming
off his "super" cycle wasn�t from the lack of steroids.. it was
from a lack of a proper foundation.. a Lack of proper training skills, and a
lack of muscular maturation�
Here�s the deal.. guys who need steroids aren�t the guys who are growing
25+lbs per cycle.. they are gaining 10lbs and hopefully keeping 5-8.. They are
struggling to even do that.. I�ll tell you from personal experience.. I am 30
yrs old 6�2� .. I am 284lbs currently.. I am 17% BF (I�m a power lifter/strongman..
so I keep a little extra fat on me)�If I wanted to keep the same body fat % I
have now and weigh 300lbs.. I would have to run a very long cycle. or in all
honesty it will take me two full cycles to get to 3 bills..
An average cycle for me is about 750mg Test, 450mg Deca, 300mg EQ and Some Dbol
in the front and at the end� Those are some fairly heavy dosages...Why
don�t I gain 25lbs per cycle?
Because No matter how much gear I take.. no matter how much I eat.. my body is
so far beyond it�s genetic potential that I simply can�t add that kind of
radical mass anymore..
My body does a fairly good job of maintaining mass when I�m not on cycle..
but I do drop weight regardless.. and in truth, the only reason my body
maintains it�s size as well as it does is because of Muscle maturation.. My
body is used to carrying around that muscle.. it�s not a shock to my body to
carry it around.. And I built a solid mass foundation naturally years ago.. I
reached my genetic potential before I started using juice.. Lifting was a habit
and a lifestyle for me because I played football from Junior high through
I�ve worked out in gyms all over the country.. and I have been doing so for
the better part of a decade.. and I'll tell you, I have seen a lot of little
guys blow up for a couple of months from a cycle only to deflate a couple of
months later. It's the truth.. Muscle Maturation plays a huge key in keeping
mass... that and proper training skills.. (and no hitting bench 3 days a week
and squatting once every few months doesn't count)
So in truth, when you hear about some guy who gained 25-30lbs off of a cycle..
Please keep in mind that he is probably some impatient tiny punk that could
have easily gained the same amount of muscle had he just been a little more
patient.. If he had just been focused on learning how to train.. focused on how
This is a lifestyle.. there are no short cuts if you want to be the real
deal.... There will never be a fly by nighter even win the smallest amateur
comp in booney freaking Iowa if he hasn't been serious for years...
It's important that you guys learn that Juice may seem like the best short cut
in the beginning... but whenever you add that much mass that quickly from
gear.. Your body isn�t going to be ready for it.. it will literally fight you
to keep it.. the sudden size and strength will stress the ligaments, tendons,
bones and central nervous system and Your body will do everything that it can
to shed those rapid muscle gains.. Decent muscle mass is only kept through time
and hard work (cough.. cough.. it's a clich�.. but it's still true).. and it's
important that your gains aren't so fast that the body can't adjust healthfully
to it�s new weight gain..
I've been on the boards for years.. and I'll tell you, 80% of the people on
these boards are wannabes and posers.. they are guys who won�t even be
working out six months from now.. They are impatient and are looking for the
shortcut.. they may even get a few short term results.. but in the long run
they will come out behind everyone else (and when I say long run.. i mean less
than a year or two)
These kind of guys will never be anything more than a hobbyist.. and in
truth...that is probably the case in every other aspect of their lives as well,
not just weight lifting..
So in the end my advice is this.. if you are wanting to add some mass. and
you�re stuck.. learn a different training method.. change your diet.. and if
you�re a good size.. (that�s when everyone who is in the room with you
knows you�re a weight lifter.. if you walk in a room, and everyone in there
doesn�t know that you lift� you are not ready for steroids) then come and
sit down.. and we�ll talk about steroids.. until then� Learn how to train..
learn how to eat.. and spend some time in the gym.. you�ll be so much better
off in the end�
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