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PROSTAGLANDIN'S! Prostaglandin F2 Alpha (PGF2A) Lutalyse
Is PGF2A for me?
Is PGF2A for everyone? Clearly not! Will it work? Yes! In this information, I will try to cover as much as possible about this drug. What I
have put together here is based much upon personal experiences�. I feel no report can accurately prepare you for everything�. PGF2A is no
exception! Contributing to this report are Big Brother Val, Ranger, Jeff rys, BigDawg, and E2, from the Elite Fitness Discussion board Mr. Nobody, and
Efigy�. Thank you all for your patience!
PGF2A and anabolism.
Many studies have demonstrated an anabolic effect of PGF2A in skeletal
muscles of both humans and animals. Paradoxically, PGF2A usage is still
reserved to a bodybuilding elite and no one is willing to divulge its
precious secret edge. One of the most remarkable effects of PGF2A is that
it potentates the anabolic effects of insulin. By combining PGF2A, and
insulin athletes can use much less insulin and get a much better muscle
building effect than with insulin alone.
Is PGF2A safe?
The answer is clearly no, but neither is the use of steroids, insulin, clenbuterol,
etc. By the way, PGF2A is invisible at any drug test. What
kind of side effects to expect? The main side effect -- if we exclude the
elevation of temperature - is a strong laxative effect. So make sure you
have unrestricted use of a bathroom. This lasts around 20 minutes. What you
do not want is to inject PGF2A into a vein! Learn to do the aspiration
test. PGF2A is injected intramuscularly with an insulin needle if you are
lean enough. Injecting in a vein will hurt like hell and for a very long
time (up to an hour). You may feel as if you have a cold in your throat.
This is due to the vasoconstriction effect PGF2A has in the lungs. Vomiting
is a reported side effect but I have never heard of it in men.
PGF2A is not to be confused with steroids.
Although part of the anabolic actions of androgens are from a local release
of PGF2A. PGF2A produces growth in a radically different way from steroids
-- While steroid use is rather comfortable. PGF2A is used in a radically
different way than Anabolic and Androgenic Steroids. With AS You inject or
swallow them occasionally and wait for the growth to occur. This is not the
case with PGF2A. PGF2A's main drawback is its difficult method of
administration. Steroids once injected exert their effect for several days
in the body. PGF2A's duration is only several minutes though its
stimulatory action on anabolism lasts several hours. This means that to be
effective, frequent injections are compulsory. An ideal injection schedule
would be five times daily, 30 minutes after meals. You will also notice
immediately after injecting PGF2A into the muscle, the injection site
becomes sore almost immediately. If the muscle was already sore from
training, the pain may become intense. You definitely do not want to repeat
injections to the same location, hence the necessity of rotation.
Additionally, you will notice you cannot inject into a muscle and then
train that muscle. PGF2A is algesic (a pain mediator). Therefore, the
timing of injections is key. You should wait for at least 2 to 3 days after
you have trained a muscle before using it for an injection. Then you will
have to wait for 24 hours before training this muscle. Again If your muscle
is sore, I advise not injecting into it until it is not sore. You will also
learn that it is more comfortable to inject the outer part of the muscle
rather than the inner part. For example, it is less painful to hit the
outer head of the triceps than the inner head that touches the lats. Some
bodyparts such as the biceps and back are especially sensitive to the pain
sensation PGF2A will induce.
This section contains a lot of personal experiences, and side effects with
this new drug�
Big Brother Val!
According to Val pumps are INSANE! In addition, Val, as the rest of us found;
needed the unrestricted use of the bathroom�Does it hurt? In Val's words,
" This shit is awesome�Hurts like fucking hell!" As Val stayed
with the injections, and SLOWLY increased the dosage, we got a report from
him at the 2-week point of the cycle. Injections and dosages varied, but I
will relate this as Val told it, " Hitting the arms 12 times a day�.3
in each Biceps, 3 in each Triceps, for a total of 6cc's a day. I am being
burned out on injecting myself so often, especially in the Biceps. The pain
is reducing now, and I do not feel sick. Still get shortness of breath, and
tightness in the chest each time. There is a visible difference in growth
thus far, and my body fat has dropped scientifically." As you can see,
and as most of us found, the injections become a major burden to deal with,
the benefit though, is the visible growth all of us have saw�it is a very
hard choice. This was taken off the Elitefitness Board as one of Big Brother
Val's Post's! I was injecting my arms 4 times a week.
It went like this:
Then repeat. I've switched it up a bit, and have found a lot better
response... in a matter of a few days, I have new stretch marks starting on
my tri's... and my arms have never felt so full. Now my lifting schedule is
the same. However, I switched up the dosage on PGF2A. I read in the
articles by Dharkam that youshould shoot 24 hours before training a
muscle... then wait 2 days after that to shoot it again. Maybe even three
days if you train hard enough. I personally have found that if I shoot the
muscle group the same day I train it... that my lifts go better... my pumps
are absoutely incredible... and I keep my pump a lot longer, as well as feel more
pumped the next couple of days.
Now I follow this schedule:
Sat:..shoot/arms.......lift/rest Then repeat.
Val wrote "It's only a switch of two days... but for my personal
results it's really working great. On arm day, I take six cc's throughout
the day. I will up the dosage coming up next week, and see how that goes.
My side effects are gone... besides the odd feeling in the chest... and the
intense muscle pain. Just thought I would give an update for those
interested in this." I have just come off a Sustanon, Eq. cycle... and
will be doing a cycle of test, Eq, and Dbol after my PGF2A run. The pain
sucks, absolutely. However, I want to focus on my arms and deltas, so they
can catch up. A lot harder to do on regular gear. "My poundage's are
definitely affected. Not nearly as dramatic as stated in that article,
though. I was curling 65 lb. dumbbells for eight
reps before I started this. Now I'm curling 45 lb. dumbbells and hoping for
eight. The pump is insane." "One of the great things, is that you can
REALLY feel the muscle working. Really, helps to focus on that muscle group
and feel it work throughout the entire range of motion. The pain factor is
intense... and the muscle REALLY burns bad while training it. More so when
you shoot on the same day you train it. That feeling isn't as intense if
you stop shooting that muscle 24 hours before you train it." "I'm
never sore after a workout the following day, but hot damn am I sore after
each shot." "Well.... the muscle pain you experience is
INTENSE!! Right now for example... I hit arms on my lunch break... (got the
most incredible pump I have EVER had, by the way), came back,and shot in the
bathroom. My arms hurt so badly right now, I can't explain it. Can't bend 'em
very well, or straighten them all the way.... I have a tight feeling in the
chest... Nevertheless, GODDAMN!!! This is the biggest my arms have EVER
looked!! IT'S FUCKIN' INSANE!! I literally cannot put on the shirt I was
wearing before break... it won't stretch enough to fit on my arms!!"
After 4 to 5 weeks of PGF2A injections, Jeff reported the following to me.
" I'm doing 8 shots a day at .5cc. Left Biceps, Right Biceps would equal
one full cc. I am fed up with the numerous injections, and if I can
overcome being fed up with the needle, I will inject more. As for the
results, � on arms when flexed. I did shoulders as well, and they are thicker.
I did some injecting in the abs, by pulling the skin up, and injecting. The
site turned red, in a spot of around 3 square inches. I am now injecting
into the muscle of the abs, but this is dangerous because you may pass
through and hit an organ. I only inject abs once a week, and the site gets
thick, as if a vein is iriated. It is not a vein, but it feels like it. I
have dropped 11 pounds, and everyone says how good I look�. I tried lower
back, and chest as well, not much results, but I think it works best if you
inject in the same spot a lot more. I feel it's a good alternative to
steroids�But, I don't know how safe it is."
PGF2A and weak bodyparts.
The cardinal rule of PGF2A is to inject as far away as possible from the
intestines, PGF2A induces a very strong contraction of the intestine and
the bladder (both smooth muscles). Bodybuilders found the best injection
site was the front shoulder. But by repeating injections frequently in the
shoulders, bodybuilders soon ended up with grossly overdeveloped front
delt's. They looked like walking monkeys. The rest of their body was
growing too, but not as fast as the muscles closest to the Injections site.
What this means is that PGF2A is ideal for developing a lagging muscle,
just inject PGF2A locally and watch! The muscle grows. And, the increased
in size is real muscle growth and not artificial swelling like Synthol or
Esiclene would induce. The calves are another obvious muscle of choice. In
fact, even if your calves have failed to grow no matter how much you have
trained them, PGF2A will Solve your problem. After a single cycle of PGF2A,
unresponsive calves start to respond, even if they never did before! The
localized growth induced by PGF2A may appear magical, but there is a Simple
explanation. The Life Cycle of the injected PGF2A is terribly short
(minutes). In minutes, most of it will be destroyed by the lungs. If you
hit your right calf for
example, the muscle is exposed to a Maximum Concentration of PGF2A. As the prostaglandin
dissipates and passes into the Blood, it quickly reaches the lungs where
most of it is destroyed. What is remaining Is dispersed evenly though the
entire body. This limited dispersed means that other muscles away from the
injection site will be Exposed to far less of the Anabolic effects of
PGF2A. So unless you only want to make a weak body part grow, you Should
rotate the Sites of injections frequently. Let us continue with other
Okay, here's my info: 1/2 cc in both body parts (1cc total)at a time. biceps
morning, triceps noon, delt's night. this is my third day. about
5 min. after injection stinging in bodypart. about 10 min. after injection
coughing and "weird feeling" in my lungs, numb lips, intense waves of
pain in the body part injected. about 20-30 min. after injection slight to
moderate urge to shit, not that bad though, no running to bathroom. One and
� to two hours after injection all bad sides are gone. pleasant pump/pain
in bodypart. I am noticing a big difference already! Oh yea! I almost
forgot, major chills and feeling VERY cold about 10 min. after and lasts
about 30 min.
What's up guys.. as we speak, I'm on my first dose of PGF2A. It was a little
fucked up how it happened so I will just explain from the beginning. I
decided to try the DMSO method first. I guess I am just curious like that.
I put 1/4 of a cc on each gauze pad and some DMSO gel. I had my wife tape
the shit to my shoulders and I waited. It got warm, and I was light- headed
as well. I felt weird once it was absorbing and the DMSO gets warm! I'm not
sure if its that or the PGF2A, but whatever. I did 1/4 of a cc because I
just wanted to test it out a little. Well, after having it on there for
like 30 minutes, I said fuck it, loaded another one up with 1/4 cc, and put
them on my bicep's. Therefore, as I am typing this I have the pads on both
areas and I am heating up rather warm. From what my boy tells me, the gel
takes a little while to absorb, so I am giving it some time. I will say, my
biceps's feel much-pumped right now. Kinda cool. He also told me, what he
noticed was with the DMSO, its like a more "all around" growth, where
as with the pin, its like a peak growth. Not all around means the whole
body. It means the whole muscle you put it on. He explained to me how the
vessel's work, this dudes like a medical student, so I trust him. Fuck I
gotta shit. Hang on! Ok I am back. Goddamn did not even see that one
coming! Ok I just took off the deltoid pads; it has been almost an hour
now. Well it looks like a big ass rash on my deltoids now. In addition, its
WARM. The biceps's are still kicking full force now. I think the dose is
that determines the whole shit your pants thing and all just hope I get some
results. My biceps are pumped! In addition, my veins are coming out like
crazy from my BI's on down. Well, I am gonna go for now. Next time I will
try the inject. Fuck, I can't wait for that shit! Okay, after reading over
the Ranger's e-mail to me a couple of times I said fuck it and got up the
balls to do it. I don't know why, but I was like, REALLY thinking it was going
to be BAD. So after some prepping and all I had my wife stick my delts.
when she injected, I didn't feel nothing. in fact, I almost thought my shit
was bunk then I got light headed like a paint high. then I felt a little
soreness in the sites. I was waiting for the other sides and I got a couple
cramps in the stomach and that was about it. now please keep in mind, I get
explosive shits all the time.. I think my body was laughing at the PGF2A,
McDonalds is worse. hehe As time went on ,I began to get more sore.. like I
had did a BIG set of laterals I guess. Once the soreness starts, the short breath
came. not too bad though.. I only felt it when I TRIED to breathe in hard.
after that all sets in, nothing else happened.. I coughed a few times but
that's it. If this is what's its like ,then I shouldn't have a problem with
this. Not for the results, it's supposed to give. Ranger's right on this
one.. after everything I read, I was waiting for! it to be PURE HELL, but
this is not the case. I will now retract my statement about the taking a
shit part. I had a FULL stomach on my last inject, in fact I had just eaten
a mcflurry well, at first I got a little rumble down there so I grabbed my
favorite car audio magazine and went to town. the rumble was followed by
some NASTY unloading, lets just say I made a swamp. fuck it though, I felt
lean as a mofo once it was over! the burning/pain part isn't shit, on the
delts at least, I'm sure the BI's would be worse but I'm not worried about
it. I guess I was thinking it would be like REAL bad,but its not. as for
injecting, I've sort of came up with my own little schedule. I figure this
week I want to hit triceps and shoulders. so one-day ill do my tri's twice
and shoulders once, then the next day ill change that around. this way they
are getting hit twice one day and once the next day. I can't think of
another way to do it without injecting like way more. The injects aren't
bad! at all, I could stand it like 5 times a day, but I don't have the time to
take that many 45 min shits. Ranger, man my fucking lips get numb now! LOL
the good thing is, I'm getting used to the sides now, and they don't bother
me. it did bother me last night when my wife hit a nerve in my tricep. here
is a list of my experience so far..
1. the inject, no pain unless she hits the nerve.. ouch
2. slight sting on injection spot
3. begin to feel warm.. a little dizzy
4. get small cramps in stomach
5. sites get a little more sore
6. lips numb
7. HUGE SHIT, liquid
8. everything goes away.. chills sometimes. that's it.. it all lasts
about 20-30 minutes for me and I'm done.
I do this shit on my lunch break now. once one side hits, another goes
away. PGF2A is not painful, it's fucking annoying. it sucks to have to feel
that way three times a day, that's why it sucks.
Well, I guess you could say I was a little more experimental in my use with
PGF2A. I wanted to see how far I could take it, and what happened, and what
I could do to minimize the side effects without hindering the growth
process��Well, I don't have all the answers to this one. I do know it
takes dedication, as Val has showed us, and you will have to endure some
pretty nasty sides from time to time�.bottom line!!! The choice is yours,
and yours alone!! I started out at 2.5mg's per bicep twice a day from the
start. I experienced all of the aforementioned sides�.Breathing, numb
lips, diarrhea, hypoglycemia, muscle pain�.the list goes on. However, in
2 weeks my arms grew � inches�doesn't sound like much? It's permanent
85growth�that's good! I did get pretty cocky at the end of the 2nd week
and decided to inject calves�I injected 1cc per muscle, per leg, for a
total of 4cc's or 20mg's. My GOD was the pain intense!! I couldn't walk for
30 minutes, Breathing was labored, lips completely numb, mucous in my throat,
and when the diarrhea came, I had to crawl to the bathroom. I was laughing
and wanting to cry at the same time, but I made it (barely)! I will say
this now�UP THE DOSAGE SLOWLY!!! How much? I cannot give you the answers
to that, everyone will be different. BIGDAWG'S side effects are no where
near that of Val', Jeff, and mine. However, take it slowly! I decided to
try a very strict diet to see the effects�I only had 100 grams of
Carbohydrates per day, all before lunch�low fat. The third day into this
diet I was getting added side effects�.light headed, headaches, cold
chills, shaky. I checked my blood sugar levels the fourth day after my
morning injection�.49mg/dl. Yup, Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). I
quickly drank some orange juice, protein shake, and ate some Gram
Crackers�the sides quickly subsided. I even made a Doctor's Appt. to have
this checked further�everything came out fine�nothing! Here's what I
found to work best for me�around 1 hour b! efore injection, have a bowl
of oatmeal, and a small protein shake. After your injection, and the sides
(diarrhea) have subsided, eat 3 tablets of Glucose (chewable orange
flavored�yummy!), and have a large protein shake. You can buy these over
the counter and is a great sugar free Carb Booster!! This worked great for
me!! I found out, and all who are using this will agree�I have become
leaner than I ever have!! As my body fat dropped, my arms and calves
continued to grow, as did the rest of my body. Only at a slower pace.
INJECTIONS SUCK!! You want to grow?? Get used to the idea!! I use 28 or
29-gauge 1 inch Insulin pins. Works great Bro's! After three weeks, and all
will once again agree, you will get needle phobia�heh heh heh�! That's
where we come to the next section�.PGF2A and DMSO!! These are some do's
and don'ts I think is important: 1. Do up the dosage slowly! 2. Do take
your time injecting! 3. Do have access to a restroom! 4. Do make sure the
injection site is clean! 1. Don't inject into the ab's, lower back, forearms,
and trap's(personal experience on this one)! I know Jeff rys is doing this
with no lasting side effects, but I feel it is unsafe at best! 2. Don't get
PGF2A near your wife or girlfriend! It can be absorbed through the skin,
and will cause cramps, bleeding�etc. In women�Never get it near a woman
that is pregnant! 3. Don't use this blindly�do all available
research�then decide! I will in the coming weeks try another little
experiment of my own. I will mix the PGF2A with DMSO and Yohimbe for spot
fat reduction, and hopefully, localized growth! If anyone has tried this,
or heard of anyone who has. Please post the information, and
PGF2A and DMSO
Prompted by BIGDAWG'S experiment, and my sudden lack of interest in injections
!! I decided to conduct a few experiments of my own with DMSO and
PGF2A�My conclusion�Injections work better, but DMSO is a welcome break!!
I would spread DMSO on a 4 inch by 4-inch gauze pad, squirt � cc per pad,
and then tape it to my Pectorals. I left it there for approximately 30
minutes. Sides were minimal at best�Somewhat heavy breathing, light
headed, site becomes very warm, and once you pull the gauze off, you may
see a slight rash(it will leave quickly). The site becomes rather pumped,
and in the case of my Biceps, I noticed an increase in Vascularity. Now,
once I pulled the gauze off my chest. I went straight to the gym. I worked
my chest in a normal fashion. I became much more pumped!! I could even tell
in the mirror. I did three sets of cable crossovers�MY GOD�It was
Intense�veins everywhere!! For the next two days, my chest was crushed!!
It felt good to be that sore again. Tried it again the same way the next week,
no where near the same pump, or after effects!! For Biceps, I upped the
dosage to 1 cc per pad, per Bicep. I achieved a good pump, and increased
Vascularity. I feel you have to up the dosage a lot quicker with the DMSO
method to achieve max results. Nevertheless, that is only my opinion�if
anyone else has tried this method in more depth, please post the time and
results!! Remember this report, is mostly based on personal experience.
Remember, not much is known about PGF2A, so take it slow. I had a GTT test
done..all results were negative. I have been on for 5 weeks now. I hope
this has answered many your questions, but it doesn't answer them all!! You
have to decide Brother's�Is PGF2A for me?? Maybe yes, maybe no!! But, it
is for Ole Ranger!!! Cause, It's All Good!! Many thanks to all those who
have ventured into the unknown with this new drug, and have shared the
Pgf2 stacked with insulin will give you a LOT OF MUSCLE GROWTH.
I stacked it for two weeks and I gained 15 pounds of solid muscle in TWO WEEKS!!
EAT A LOT!!
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Sometimes I inject 4ml at once in my biceps/calves. Yeah bros, sometimes i can't
walk all day long. What the fuck: No pain no gain. In this form pain becomes
art. Much worse than tren acetate. I love pgf2. pgf2 is fucking cool!!!! In a
few weeks I will stack tren with pgf2 with insulin with clen. the ultimate pain
IMPORTANT to know:
They say inject pgf2 as far as possible from your intestine. Because of the
shitting. That's true. I have a far more important advice. Inject pgf2 as far
away from your heart muscle. Pgf2 will cause your heart muscle to grow
enormously. I experienced this myself. i have a rest heart beat of only 35!!!
Sometimes I am afraid that my heart will stop! So I take clen with it to get my
heart beating a bit faster.
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Everybody agrees with this one. One of the best fatt loss drugs ever.
What about fat: PGF2 vs DNP?
We are told that DNP is the strongest thermogenic (temperature elevating) drug
available. I dispute this statement. Inject PGF2, wait for ten minutes and you
will sweat profusely. In fact, your body temperature will rise so much that you
may feel very cold while a witness will get scared as you feel so hot. By
elevating your body temperature, PGF2 will burn up your fat at an accelerated
rate. Furthermore, unlike muscle cells, fat cells do not like to be exposed to
PGF2. As a result, they die. Mark this well: unlike a classical diet which makes
each fat cell shrink, PGF2 kills fat cells. With PGF2, you can say goodbye to
your excess adipose tissue.
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For many months I inject pgf2. Bottom line is. You have to stand the side
effects and know how to use it. Very important is that you have to eat as much
as possible. If you don't you will shrink!
There is too much to write about pgf2. If you have any questions about pgf2 you
can drop me an email.
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